“A photographer must first feel his way into his sitter’s personality, as far as it is manifested in his appearance,” Herbert List once wrote. “He will hardly be in a position to create a true likeness of someone to whom he has no relation at all.” At the end of the year 1950, List moved into a new apartment in Munich and set up his own darkroom. It is here that he produced many prints of the intimate and discerning portraits of artists, friends, and acquaintances that he encountered through his daily life in Germany and travels around the world.
Today, over 70 years later, Magnum Gallery Director Samantha McCoy speaks to Peer-Olaf Richter of the Herbert List Estate about three vintage prints from List’s collection, delving into the stories of the people in the images, and the beauty of the unique prints today.
Samantha McCoy: Could you tell us about these three specific works? Where were they taken and when? All three seem to feature pairs, or couples, could you tell us about this motif?
Peer-Olaf Richter: Since List is best known for his erotic images of young men and his stills symbolizing friendship by showing pairs of objects, I had the idea to explore a new territory with some less expected versions of pairs, strongly featuring women. All three photos are from the 1950s, shot near Munich and on Ischia. It was a time when the economy was on the up — especially in Germany and Italy. For List, it also coincided with the beginning of a very productive and optimistic period of production. So the settings of many of his images at this time mirror newfound prosperity, regained freedom to travel, and a fresh start after the hardship of war and postwar years.
But as we know, List’s images are hardly ever just happy and carefree. There is usually a sense of stillness, contemplation, or even melancholy present. This, I believe, comes from the stories behind all of the people we see in his pictures, since they are not models on a magazine shoot, but real friends that he knew. Their stories remind us of the subtext of sexism, homophobia, or unaccepted alternative lifestyles — a subtext that was rooted in the culture of the 1950s, just as much as Coca-Cola or Rock ‘n Roll.
Samantha McCoy: Let’s speak about “Couple at Lake Ammersee” (pictured above). I loved discussing the nuances of this photograph with you. The composition is so unique, especially for the time.
Peer-Olaf Richter: The formal aspect that only one person is facing the viewer, while we see the other in profile or only from the back, caught my attention. This kind of composition creates tension and invites us to ask about the relation of the two people we are seeing. Also, with the binary couples in these images, we see the women more clearly than the men.
A young woman from Munich is looking directly at us, dressed in a dark sweater which is covering everything below the neckline. The naked muscular back and arm of a man create a stark contrast. Think about it: in a more classical or straight image from the canon, this composition of the two bodies would have called for the opposite dressing: a fully clothed man covering a female nude, with just enough skin of the woman visible to titillate a male straight viewer. List’s version of the scene is twisted, presenting us with a choice: do we focus on the naked muscular back of a man or on a beautiful woman? So much for the viewing pleasure the photographer gives us with this unusual, maybe even queer, image. And what kind of look is the woman giving us? It is neither vapid nor insecure, but also not joyful or sad, but with a hint of a knowing smile.
When I met Lisa, who is the woman in the image, she recalled the thrill of leaving Munich on the weekend with List and his friends to hang out at the lakes around the city. Her parents however did not approve of her conduct with the gay artist and his alternative lifestyle. To her, it was an escape from the stuffy and bland routine that the 1950s had to offer for a young woman like her.
Samantha McCoy: And what about “Couple of Ischia,” (pictured below) which is one of my personal favorites?
Peer-Olaf Richter: Here, the breathtakingly beautiful actor and model Margery Brown occupies the foreground of the image while her handsome husband Carlyle remains a blurry figure in the back. So for one of the key images of his photo essay, Artists Prefer Forio, which focussed on painters spending the summer on the island of Ischia, List moves the painter to the sidelines and presents us his wife instead.
